Patton Oswalt: Ratting Out in Ratatouille
The rats in Disney/Pixar's new animated film Ratatouille [Rat-a-too-ee] are resourceful, kinda cuddly and nice to have around. So, it seems, is the "lead" rat Remy, voiced by stand-up comic Patton Oswalt who, in 2002, was named Entertainment Weekly's "It Comedian". The cute, friendly fellow has been in TV specials on HBO and Comedy Central. You might have caught Patton playing Spence on TV's "The King of Queens" and he was a writer on the mega-funny "MADtv" as well as acting in Starsky and Hutch, Zoolander and Man on the Moon.
Patton thoroughly entertained us when answering our questions recently in Beverly Hills. Seems he's quite the animation fan, since childhood. He has a great respect for both classic and modern animation and was delighted when Ratatouille screenwriter/director Brad Bird heard one of his comedy routines about overkill steakhouse commercials and decided he and his voice were perfect to play Remy, the rat who yearns to be a gourmet chef.
Picture Patton in jeans and an amazing long-sleeved, checked shirt covered with appliqued grim reaper and skull designs!
TeenHollywood: When you were a teenager, what was the animated film that you thought was really cool?
Patton:
When I was a teenager I remember I really loved Yellow Submarine [by The Beatles] because it was so simple and also, there was a lot of TV animation, the Japanese stuff like 'Marine Boy' and 'Starblazers', 'Battleship Yamato' and stuff like that. And then, when I was in college, I saw Akira and it was like 'oh my goodness gracious'. Oh yeah and now, because of Brad Bird and John Lasseter I've discovered Miyazaki, you know My Friend Totoro and Swept Away and stuff like that. There's so much good stuff out there, it's ridiculous.
TeenHollywood: Just how shocked were you when you got a phone call that said 'we want you to star in a Pixar film'?
Patton:
I was very shocked. That was exactly it. I said 'this has got to be the most expensive episode of 'Punk'd' ever done'. Brad Bird heard my first CD and said 'that's the rat. That's the guy' and then brought me in and pretty much said 'you're gonna be the rat' and we really bonded over the fact that I'm a big foodie and I'm into chefs and good restaurants.
TeenHollywood: Has your stand-up comedy led to any other gigs like spokesperson for a food product?
Patton: [laughs] No, I've done a lot of voice overs but I haven't really gotten 'oh, we should have that guy be our spokesman. Let's have a pale, sleep-deprived fat dude come out and make people buy our products'. That doesn't normally happen.
TeenHollywood: What, exactly, did Brad Bird hear that sold him?
Patton: I was riffing on the fact that I'm so delighted at how horrible the Black Angus restaurants are. I mean, I'm sure the restaurant's fine but if you're watching the ads it's like this gauntlet of threatening food. It doesn't even look pleasant, [does a Western voice] 'we'll start you off with an appetizer platter with eighteen big'... 'we're all gonna split that' 'No, you're each gonna get your own' and it just goes on and on and it's so brutal [according to Patton, you can download his bit on i-Tunes].
TeenHollywood: How do you personally feel about rats?
Patton:
I actually kind of like them. There's a little bonus thing on the [upcoming] DVD about humans and rats that's really well done. They're actually kind of cool creatures. They're pretty extraordinary. They travel all over the world. That's why Remy doesn't have an accent because they're constantly moving. Rats can squeeze through a hole the size of a quarter. They can just shift all their bones like that dude on 'The X-Files' [laughter]. Their teeth can chew through concrete, steel, lead. They can chew through anything. They can digest anything and, after they did the Bikini Atoll nuclear bomb [test], the rats were the only things that survived with, apparently, no ill effects. They were fine. So, they'll be around.
TeenHollywood: I like them too, the clean ones.
Patton: Oddly enough, humans and rats really do depend on each other because, without rats, our garbage really would overwhelm us and, without humans, rats would die because they live on our garbage and they live in our warm buildings. So, if all that collapsed, we'd both be gone. So, protect the rats.
TeenHollywood: Did they show you a drawing of Remy, the rat you would be playing?
Patton:
They showed me the clay models which they render the 3-D from so that things have weight and they showed me all the drawings. They also showed me the other rats who I'd be interacting with. It was great. I saw my whole family. My dad Django is played by Brian Dennehy and there used to be a mom character and they wrote the mom out for some reason and there were a bunch of brothers and they just kind of coalesced them all into Emile. It was really cool. Big, dumb Emile.
TeenHollywood: As a physical comedian, did you hope that some of your gestures would get into the film and did they?
Patton:
Doing the work of voice-over is very physical. You use your body in everything but they had me come in in the middle of the process and do stand-up for them and just tell them stories and answer questions and they filmed me. So, you'll see that a lot of my gestures are in the character. The whole second act, he's mute. He doesn't talk. He stops talking because [he's hiding]. But, if you notice, the acting is still amazing because the Pixar animators are such good actors. There were scenes where I was like 'wow, wait a minute. I'm not doing this. The animators are doing this'. That's how incredible they are.
TeenHollywood: What were some of your gestures that stayed in the film?
Patton: Just like when I'm excited and I'm talking and my hands will go over my head and I'll do a lot of this [gestures with his hands, like pointing] and that. There's little touches. And also just my face when I'm thinking. You'll see. There's stuff like that.
TeenHollywood: We understand you didn't meet the person who played Linguini [Remy's partner in being a chef] until at the wrap party?
Patton:
At the party on June 2nd, I finally met Lou Romano. He's an animator at Pixar and I finally met him the night that we saw the completed film. It was nuts. He's sooo like the character and Pete Sohn is sooo like Emile; this big, sweet guy. He has that great voice. He's really sweet.
TeenHollywood: Was that challenging for you not to be able to play off of him when he wasn't in the room while you were recording your voice?
Patton:
No, it wasn't at all because I'm in a room with Brad Bird and Brad Bird is able to call up any of the characters that he needs at any moment so you're constantly interacting with the characters because of that one guy.
TeenHollywood: Does he do the voices of all the characters?
Patton: He'll just give you their attitude. He won't do the specific voice but he can always recreate what their effect would be on you emotionally and socially, which is great.
TeenHollywood: Being a comedian on stage working alone, does that help you with this?
Patton:
Being on stage you have to address an audience like it's one person. You can't be screaming and desperately pleading with people to laugh at you. You make it like a conversation so, yeah, that definitely helped. Look at all the stand ups that have done these movies that are really good at it; the Tim Allens and Albert Brooks, people like that they are perfect for this kind of work; Billy Crystal in Monsters Inc. was awesome.
TeenHollywood: So you were a big animation fan before doing this?
Patton: Yeah, I was into Pixar since the mid-'80's when I would see their shorts in animation like Luxo and Red Stream and stuff like that. And then all of the Termite Terrace guys with the Warner Brothers cartoons; Chuck Jones and Michael Maltese so yeah. What I like about Pixar is they're recreating the Frank [Thomas] and Ollie [Johnston] years of Disney back when they were doing Snow White and Dumbo when it was about 'people make movies so they can make money and we're making money so we can make movies'. All the money goes back into the next movie. They just want a body of work that they are proud of.
TeenHollywood: Are we going to see you doing more animation films now?
Patton:
I hope so. They're really fun to do. There are so many great animators out there working at these different animation houses now. A lot of these studios are starting to realize that, not only is animation profitable but 'what is the Pixar model? Let's do what Pixar does. Let's take our time and not just crank these things out and really follow original visions from the ground up'. Ratatouille is original from the ground up. It's an original score by Michael Giacchino, it's these voice actors that are not stars, I mean me, for cryin' out loud. Really, they're getting who they think is best and then trusting that their animators are going to make it new and fresh and they really do.
TeenHollywood: What's coming up after this for you?
Patton: I have a new CD that's coming out on July 10th from Sub Pop so I'm very excited about that. Sub Pop came after me which was very flattering and then I'm in a few more movies and I'll be touring. I'm actually kind of enjoying not knowing exactly what's coming next for once.
TeenHollywood: What's the name of your CD?
Patton:
'Werewolves and Lollipops' which has nothing to do with the CD. What that is is, 'we need a title by tomorrow. The twenty that you've given us we hate so much' so they picked the one where I threw my hands in the air and went, 'oh, Werewolves and Lollipops. I don't know'. That's the one they liked. Oh, drove me crazy. No lollipops, no werewolves, nothin'. Sorry. I don't know what to tell you.
TeenHollywood: Who would you love to work with doing another voice in an animated movie?
Patton: Oh, man, well, I'd love to be with some of the classic guys that are doing it like Billy West or a Tom Kenny. These guys are doing these amazing voices. Hank Azaria is another one. They are so versatile and do all of these voices. I got a chance to work with Clancy Brown on 'Spongebob Squarepants' and he's like Lex Luthor and he's Mr. Crabby so that's range. I'm actually a fan of these guys; Frank Welker. I'd love to see Frank Welker work and see how he does what he does because he's like the God of animation voices right now.. still. He was Scooby Doo and he's always like animals and inanimate stuff. He just brings great things to it.
TeenHollywood: Did you fall in love with little Remy?
Patton:
I got really defensive about him. You can relate to that. Probably, when you were starting to be a writer, there were people that weren't violently against you but they were 'that's great. You get a day job'. [yep, we can relate]. They don't understand that it doesn't matter if I make a lot of money because I actually like doing this so I've already won. So that's kind of what Remy is trying to explain to his family. And then, just like you do when you write and send your stuff out into the world, he's gotta explain it to the outside world and go up against this critic and go against the prejudices of these cooks. I'm rooting for him. I'm really on the guy's side you know? I've gone through versions of that. He's such a sweetie.
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Lynn Barker is a Hollywood-based entertainment journalist and produced screenwriter.